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Kalee has items come up missing and items moved in her duplex owned by her grandparents. Is it the evil spirits brought in by the upside-down cross, or is it helpful spirit maybe of her great uncle there to protect her? Listen to this episode to come to your conclusion.

If you listen to episode 2 “Lisa’s Haunted House”, Kalee is the preteen daughter mentioned by Lisa.  https://mnghoststories.com/2-lisas-haunted-house/

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Jeramiah Pearce
Hello and welcome to Minnesota ghost stories podcast. My name is Jeremiah Pearce and I’ll be your host. 

Do you like sitting around talking about ghost stories, UFOs, unexplained things with your friends? That’s what this podcast is about. Real Stories told by Real People.

Hello, I’d like to welcome Kalee to the Minnesota Ghost Stories podcast. If you remember from Episode Two, Lisa’s haunted house, Lisa mentions her preteen daughter. Kalee, now 20, 21 years old. She is no longer a preteen. She is here to share her story of what happened to her in that house and the things that happened to her when she moved out.

Kalee
Hi, thanks for having me. I was excited when I heard my mom was speaking because I experienced some stuff outside of the house as well. My mom’s story was very accurate. Everything happened the way she said it did. She experienced things before my brother and I did. 

The things that my brother was saying, it was weird. Talking about people in his room or his pillow talking to him. It didn’t seem as crazy as it did until I started experiencing things. When I would go to sleep at night, I would have the hallway light on because I was kind of scared of the dark and my bedroom was right across from his room. I would hear walking around in the house all of the time. It was just like creaking noises. I always just told myself that it was the house settling, but the noises always seemed to get closer and closer to my bedroom every single night. Like somebody was walking towards me. Then one night I woke up just out of a dead sleep and looked over toward my closet and I saw fingers grab on to my closet door. Whatever it was started to push my closet door open. I was young, so at the time I didn’t get want to get up and scream so I just closed my eyes quickly and forced myself to go back to sleep. 

The next morning was actually when the laundry basket ended up on the floor. My mom finally just snapped and was like, you know, this is not okay, we have to do something about it. That’s when my dad finally blessed the house. Nothing crazy happened after that. I ended up moving out and in with my grandparents a few months after that.

I lived with my grandparents for about five or six years. I experienced a few things there but it wasn’t anything paranormal. It was things I would see in the sky that would freak me out. 

One night I was out with some family and I was on my way home. I was actually by myself at home and I decided to let the dog out. While I was out there, I was telling her to go potty and all of a sudden I heard something in the background say who go potty, who go potty. At first, I was like, no, maybe it’s an owl. I’m just hearing things. Then it started a full-on conversation with me. It was asking questions like, Who are you talking to? Who are you? Where are you? I immediately freaked out. I ran into the house. I was so scared, I stayed in my bedroom pretty much the rest of the night. When my grandparents got home, I explained to them what I had heard outside and they didn’t believe me. They told me that I probably was just hearing stuff and that maybe it was the wind or something like an animal. They immediately did not believe me. So everything was fine after that I didn’t experience anything for a few years. 

When I turned 17, close to 18, I moved out with my boyfriend. We moved into a duplex. This duplex was my grandparents. They rented it out to college kids or anybody who had seen their listing. Some people lived on the top level and we lived on the bottom. When we first moved into the duplex, it was completely trashed. The people who had lived there before were disgusting. It was filthy. We had to take the carpet out, get new windows, and everything. When we first moved in, we didn’t want to buy any furniture because we wanted to wait until we got the new carpet. We had our bed in the living room because the back rooms were not safe to walk around in because there were a lot of nails and stuff back there. So we stayed mostly in the living room. 

We did end up getting a kitchen table. My grandma borrowed us a screwdriver so we could fix up the table. We had to put the chairs together and stuff like that. The screwdriver that she gave us was important to her. She got it from her mom who was no longer with us. We were using it and we set it down and just all of a sudden it disappeared. It was really weird because it was within five seconds. We turned around and it was gone. A month went by and we still didn’t find it. My grandma was kind of upset because this screwdriver meant a lot to her. One day I got up and I went into my makeup closet. I go there every single day because it was where I kept my bathroom products, my makeup stuff, cleaning supplies, anything like that. I opened up the closet door and there the screwdriver was, sitting right in front of my makeup. I was so scared because like I said, I go in there every single day. I had never seen it for like a month. We didn’t think too much of it. We just kind of brushed it off. 

A lot of the stuff that did happen to us was in gaps. A few months went by and we were sitting on our bed. We were going to watch a scary movie so my boyfriend went into the laundry room to shut off the light. The light was on or something, I can’t remember why, but he went back there to shut off the light. He was closing the door behind him and he heard a click, and the light had turned on by itself. He ran out and told me what happened. I brushed it off as maybe a circuit blew or something. There was another gap and nothing happened. 

About a month or month and a half went by before something else happened. The neighbors that lived upstairs, they left on vacation. I think they were gone for about a week and a half. So nobody was up there. They did have a cat, but I couldn’t imagine the cat made these noises. When we would go to bed at night, we would hear stomping and people walking upstairs or things dropping loud, like a bowling ball or something. It was so loud up there. When they got back, we asked them, if there was anything, weird or if they have ever experienced anything up there. They said no. So we just thought maybe it was their cat. We just tried to not get too scared because this was where we lived, and we didn’t want anything to be happening. We did mention it to my grandma, and she told us that nothing happened there.

Again, it would go on for a gap of time and then we would lose stuff. We would find it in the laundry room drain every single time we lost something. It would just be little things like my ring, my necklace, or my hairbrush that would go missing. It was just little things that didn’t mean anything. But when we couldn’t find them, they did mean a lot. I decided to look into the laundry room to see if there was a sign of something. I found an upside-down cross carved into the light switch. If you don’t know what that is, it’s a sign of the devil. I didn’t know that I had to look it up, but I was extremely scared when I found out what it meant. 

I had my mom come over and she brought a radio thing, a ghost radio or something like that. It scans through the white noise and you ask questions. If you get an answer, you play it back and listen to it. So we played it back after we had asked questions. We heard one thing on there. Our questions were, who are you? and what do you want? It responded with, I am not here to hurt you. I am here to help. I didn’t want to think that it was something that was going to hurt me, but at the same time, I didn’t know what it could have been because nobody else had experienced anything there. I was the only one so far that was experiencing this stuff. 

Another gap of time went by, and we started hanging out with a lot of people. People would come over a lot. One night we were having a party and I decided to take out my phone. I was taking a video and I caught a figure on my phone. I showed everybody. It wasn’t anything that you could tell was an actual human. You could tell that it was a figure though. I saved the photo and I decided to try again. A few weeks later I captured a man’s face on my camera. You could see the lining of the face, the lips, and the eyes. It was terrifying. The next day I went to work and I remember sitting in the office, I was so scared, I didn’t even want to go back home. I was shaking. I didn’t want to be there anymore at all. And when I came home, we started to notice that the cats were acting extremely strange. They were looking at stuff, they were running into walls, very scary. I finally said that I didn’t want to be here anymore and I wanted to leave. So we ended up going to my grandparent’s house for a while. While there, we were talking to them about it. They told us that we were crazy and that there wasn’t anything happening. They thought we were making this stuff up. They didn’t believe us whatsoever. 

That night, we went back home. I went to bed early because I wasn’t feeling that well. My boyfriend went to hang out with his friends. I woke up at some point. I was kind of in a daze. I was half asleep and half awake. As I was waking up, I saw something standing at the end of the bed. I stood up fast and all of a sudden this bright flashing light flashed in my face, then it was gone. I called my boyfriend and I said please come home, I’m super scared. I don’t want to be here stuff is happening, I’m freaking out, I just I can’t do this. So he came home and he brought his friend back. His friend stayed for a few days because my boyfriend was off of work. They were just hanging out at the house. This guy had no idea who my family was. The last night that he was there he goes into the bathroom. As he was coming out, he said that he heard a little boy in the background talking. He said that his name was Liam. Liam is my youngest brother. Oh my gosh, that gave me goosebumps, I was freaking out. I was like we have to leave.

I would hear voices while I was in the shower, things would fly off the counter and it was ultimately just a very, very very scary situation. When we did move out, nothing happened to anybody else that had lived there. Nothing has happened to me since then. But to this day, it still scares me that something may happen again. But that was that.

Jeramiah Pearce
I don’t even know where to start. It sounds pretty crazy and creepy. Pretty scary. 

Kalee
Yes. Yes, it was.

Jeramiah Pearce
So why do you think whatever it was, was taking your jewelry?

Kalee
I don’t know, because for a while I thought that it was maybe my cats getting on the bathroom counter and playing with them. We had carpet in the hallway, so I don’t know how they could have slid anything into the laundry room. It was very, very strange to me. It would just be random objects. 

The screwdriver, I felt like they knew that it was something that meant a lot to me or my family. I think that that was something, but my rings and my necklaces didn’t mean a lot to me, it was just stuff that I would wear.

Jeramiah Pearce
So it’s trying to get your attention?

Kalee
I think so. Yes.

Jeramiah Pearce
The screwdriver. It’s weird to have a screwdriver as a family heirloom or something handed down, but I could see the screwdriver having some energy attached to it if it means a lot to somebody.

Kalee
Right. 

Jeramiah Pearce
Those items tend to have energy attached to them. I think the rings, necklaces, hairbrush, and those little trinkets, I think it was just trying to get your attention. As the spirit box said, it’s not here to hurt you. It’s here to help you. 

What do you think it was trying to help you with?

Kalee
I don’t know. The thing that got me was the upside-down cross. It was something that they said. I’m not here to hurt you. I’m here to help. Maybe it was for that reason. Maybe it was something good that was there that was trying to get rid of the bad. I don’t know. 

The attention thing definitely, because we would even find things like the toilet seat was taken off from the toilet. That was strange because you would have to use some kind of a tool to get that off. You can’t just rip that off from the toilet. So even that, just the little things. It was just very strange.

Jeramiah Pearce
Just all attention-getting stuff. 

Kalee
Very.

Jeramiah Pearce
Just letting you know that they were still there helping you, protecting you. Perhaps, like you said the upside-down cross is very terrifying in that aspect. but possibly, just like you also said they were there protecting you as well. 

Kalee
Right.

Jeramiah Pearce
Maybe they were doing the battles for you. I’m gonna go back to your childhood. 

How old were you when this stuff was happening?

Kalee
When I was first noticing stuff, I was about 12. I wasn’t a teenager yet.

Jeramiah Pearce
Like I mentioned with your mom, I’ll mention here too, and probably the listeners will get sick of hearing it because I’m so fascinated with the Poltergeist phenomena. I find that very fascinating that we, as living beings, can project energy and make this stuff happen. It seems like when teen girls go through puberty, it’s a lot of stress. They can project energy out of them. Poltergeists aren’t like you see in the movies. Poltergeist is a haunting caused by a living being. We all have energy in us, and that energy gets projected. We have so much stress at that age we can project that energy and make things move. I’ve just brought that up, maybe for my own sake, but it is weird. 

You moved in with your grandparents. How old were you then?

Kalee
I was about 13 or 14. Somewhere in between there.

Jeramiah Pearce
I’m sure that must have been a stressful situation for you.

Kalee
Yeah, kind of. I mean, it was just a family decision. We thought this would be easier. If I lived with my grandparents. it was just all family-related. Nothing wrong, but yeah.

Jeramiah Pearce
Still stressful though. Being separated from your parents.

Kalee
Definitely.

Jeramiah Pearce
Refresh my memory here. Did anything happen at your grandparent’s house? Was that when you’re out walking your dog?

Kalee
Yeah, it just happened to me when I was outside. Nothing else out of the ordinary happened to me when I was living there. Just that one time.

Jeramiah Pearce
Then you move with your boyfriend into a house that was owned by grandparents. When your neighbors were on vacation, they left their cat behind. 

Do you know if they had people come to look after the cat, feed the cat?

Kalee
They asked us too. They had a key under the mat. The front door that we had, you would walk in, and it was a hallway of stairs. It would just be stairs going up, and then there was the main door going to the outside. That was always locked. So they left a spare key inside that hallway. We would go up there and feed the cat or whatever else that they needed. We didn’t notice anything when we would go up there. Nothing was ever on the ground or anything. But the stomping was so loud. It sounded like a bowling ball was being thrown off of the counter.

Jeramiah Pearce
I have no explanation for that. It just sounds so weird. I do like the fact that whatever was in that place, was there telling you that it’s on your side. It always left those reminders, taking or moving things like the screwdriver. I don’t know what the heck was up with that screwdriver? Where in the heck did it go? Why did it go?

Kalee
One of the things that I do think about is my grandma’s brother. He passed away when he was fairly young. It was a few years ago when we were living at the duplex or maybe before that when he passed away. It happened in the hospital. It was completely unexpected. That’s like the only thing that I can think of because it was my grandma’s mom. So it was his mom too. So I thought maybe it could have been him. What made me point more to him is that I would always hear voices. whether it was coming from outside or inside I don’t know, but it was always a guy’s voice. I never heard a girl’s voice. I always heard a guy’s voice. The whole time going through this at the duplex when I heard that on that radio of it saying, I’m not here to hurt you, I’m here to help you. I immediately thought that maybe it’s my uncle. Maybe it’s my great uncle. I don’t know, that was my main thought.

Jeramiah Pearce
You said your boyfriend’s friend was in the bathroom and heard the name, Liam. Is that your brother’s name. Is that correct? 

Kalee
Yeah. 

Jeramiah Pearce
Is your brother still alive? 

Kalee
Yes. 

Jeramiah Pearce
Going back to Episode Two, Liam was the boy seeing the deer and the pillow talking to him? 

Kalee
No, Liam was the baby.

Jeramiah Pearce
Liam was the baby. Okay. So little brother. 

Kalee
Yeah. 

Jeramiah Pearce
I’m just trying to put two and two here. There are always questions but what to ask because that experience, I’ve never experienced anything like that. There’s some stuff I really shouldn’t talk about on the podcast. Every time a heart beats, it sends an electrical signal. Our muscles are controlled by electrical signals. Our bodies are full of electricity. So, when we die, that electricity gets attached to something or it disappears. It gets absorbed into something because energy does not die, energy keeps moving. It just takes a different form. So it possibly could be a relative’s energy attached to that screwdriver. Who am I to tell energy what to do? 

Kalee
Exactly.

Jeramiah Pearce
The more I get involved in paranormal stuff, the more I’m learning. Maybe I’m not correct, but the more I’m reading and researching, the way I’m interpreting this stuff, the energy has to go somewhere. I’m not religious, so I can’t say it goes to heaven or hell. I do know, however, that energy never dies. When we die, that energy has to do something. It has to go somewhere. Does it go back to an object that is held dear to his heart? Maybe that was his favorite screwdriver. Say a lady in her 80s dies. You see her apparition. She might not be an 80-year-old woman, she might be when she was 20 years old. There might be something when she was 20 years old that she loved or enjoyed and that’s where she’s going. What form is that energy going to take? I’m glad you shared your story because there’s so much more to it.

Kalee
Right. 

Jeramiah Pearce
Are you sensitive to things like that? Do you notice things? Do you feel things?

Kalee
Oh yes. I am the one that always knows if something weird happens. I am straight to the point of what was that. 

Jeramiah Pearce
Right.

Kalee
I try my hardest to come up with things that it could have been. When we lived in the duplex, I tried so hard to brush everything off because at the time I was really scared. I didn’t want to come home, because I was so scared that something was going to happen. It was nothing to the point of anybody hurting me. It was things going off of the counter and not breaking. Glasses were flying off of the counter and they wouldn’t break. Seasonings or anything that we had on the counter would fly off. Some things were insane and other things were just whatever. Don’t draw too much attention to it. But it was scary.

Jeramiah Pearce
Did you ever try to tell it to stop? Or, say, Hey, I know you’re here. relax a little bit.

Kalee
No, I didn’t. I may have had a few too many drinks when I was partying with people and tried to get an ouija board one time. I didn’t go through with it because my boyfriend was like, don’t do that. You don’t want to do that.

Jeramiah Pearce
Yet, you did the spirit box. It’s all opening up those doors. How was your spirit box, I don’t want to say experiment. But how was your spirit box episode? Did you feel more relaxed or did you feel verified?

Kalee
No, I was still very scared. It kind of opened up my mind a little bit more too. When my mom came to do this Ghost Box, she brought both of my younger brothers and Liam was there. When, my boyfriend’s friend came over and said, Hey, you know, I think Someone’s in the back room. They are saying that they’re Liam. It was scary for me because he didn’t know my family. He didn’t know who my brothers were. He didn’t know my mom, anything like that. So when he said that, it was very scary. My brother was so scared of coming into the house, he immediately felt something. He didn’t want to be there at all.

Jeramiah Pearce
Does your brother feel things? The one that saw the saw the deer and the pillow talk? Is he more sensitive as well?

Kalee
I don’t know. I don’t think he remembers. I would honestly have to ask him, but I don’t think he remembers because he was pretty young at the time. This would all happen in the middle of the night, so when this would happen, he would come into my room and just go back to sleep. There were some nights that he would wake up in my bedroom and throw up all over my bed. The next day, he would be perfectly fine. It was weird stuff. I don’t want to say that it wasn’t him, but at the time it was his room. He slept in the room. That was the room where the lady passed away.

Jeramiah Pearce
It all baffles me. It scares me. It excites me. I have all those emotions that go through me when I hear people’s stories because they’re all different, but in their way, they’re all the same. You know, it’s stuff that we cannot explain.

Kalee
Right?

Jeramiah Pearce
It seems trivial. Some of these stories seem trivial when you hear them. But as the person experiencing those, it’s scary as heck. It scares the bejesus out of you. Because you don’t know what’s going on. You can’t explain it. So it’s scary. I wish I had answers for you. I wish I had answers for everybody.

You don’t live in that duplex anymore. You have moved out and moved on. You don’t experience anything else? not to that extent, at least.

Kalee
There was one thing, but I didn’t think too much of it. There was a door at one of the old places that we lived that had closed on its own. Just randomly closed. 

There’s some other stuff, but we also have cats. When stuff happens now, we assume that the cats did it. There are a few times where I’ll come home from work now and the oven will be open and I’ll be like, oh, maybe the cat just jumped on the oven.

Jeramiah Pearce
The cat didn’t do that.

Kalee
I just try to think of everything as a coincidence, because if I don’t, then I don’t want to be here and I don’t want to think about that every place I go.

Jeramiah Pearce
Have you ever tried to bless the duplex or bless the place that you live now?

Kalee
I didn’t.

Jeramiah Pearce
I know you don’t want to think of stuff happening at this new place, or this place that you’re in now, but I wonder if just even sprinkling holy water around would stop some of this stuff.

Kalee
I could try that, but ever since the duplex, nothing crazy has happened to me like that.

Jeramiah Pearce
Nothing has scared you.

Kalee
I don’t know if I’m immune to it. Maybe stuff is happening and I’m like whatever, but I feel like I would probably know if it was happening.

Jeramiah Pearce
We’ll go with the cat opening up the oven door. I’ll go with you on that one.

Kalee
It has happened with our freezer too. We have to duct tape the freezer because this was happening every night. We would wake up and the freezer would be wide open. All of our food would be melted. We have started duct taping it because we think that the cats are jumping on the freezer.

Jeramiah Pearce
Damn cats.

Kalee
Exactly.

Jeramiah Pearce
You’re funny. I don’t know how the fridge and the freezer are set up but if my fridge was open, it wouldn’t be the cats, just saying. If it’s not the cats then its probably just letting you know that it’s there to protect you. It is not trying to harm you, you’re not getting depressed, and it’s not latching on to you like an evil spirit. So it has to be there to help you. It has to be there living its life in the afterlife. So it’s not there to harm you in any aspect. I think we can all live with those spirits. The evil ones are the scary ones.

I’m gonna let you go unless you have anything else you want to want to add. I really can’t think of any other questions. That’s kind of scary to me. The screwdriver going missing, the jewelry, the hairbrush, just things going missing and being found in that one spot. It could be cats, then coming up with the spirit box. It sounds like there’s something there that was helping you out, something looking out or looking over you. That’s reassuring for sure. Maybe they are over overlooking you and protecting you in this new place too. That’s reassuring as well. We’ll go with cats. Love those cats? 

Kalee
I know. 

Jeramiah Pearce
Yeah. Do you have anything else to add Kalee?

Kalee
No, I do not.

Jeramiah Pearce
Okay, I’m gonna hit the stop button here then. 

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